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The Ontological Argument

  1. Anselm

    • Used the statement in Psalms that said " a fool says in his heart there is no God"
    • The Proslogion
      • Reductio ad absurdum
        • Proof by contradiction
          • Both forms of the argument do this
          • Proving your version is right by suggesting that the opposite would prove an absurd result
      • God is the greatest conceivable being
        • God is "aliquid quo nihil mauis possibit"
      • Part 2
        • Same format but with contingency and neccessity
        • When he paints it it exists in his reality and his understanding
        • It exists in his understanding
        • The painter knows what he is going to paint before he paints it
        • God is the greatest conceivable being
        • It is better to have always existed then to stop existing
        • If God stop existing a greater being could be conceived that always exists
        • Therefore God must always exist
      • Part 1
        • Therefore God must exist.
          • To think God doesn't would be a contradiction to the 1st premise
        • If God existed only in the mind a greater being could be conceived that exists in both
        • It is greater to exist in the mind and reality rather than just reality
        • God is the greatest conceivable being
  2. Descartes

    • Cogito ergo sum
      • I think therefore I am
      • Though he could prove he exists, he could not prove the existence of everything else
    • He believed that the knowledge of the triangles properties did not come from his senses as his senses would not derive the triangles properties as clearly as his mind would
    • Part 2
      • God is a supremely perfect being
      • Existence is a perfection
      • If God did not exist he would not be supremely perfect as existence is a perfection
      • Therefore God must exist
      • A supremely perfect being has all the perfections
    • When considering critisms
      • To think of God without existence is to think of a mountain without valleys or a triangle without three sides
  3. Background

    • A priori
      • Not based on experience
      • Tries to prove Gods existence through logic alone
  4. Critisms

    • Guanillo
      • Anselms first part.
        • You cant define something into existence
          • You can think of the perfect island but doesn't mean it exists.
            • Everyone's idea of perfection is different (subjective)
        • You can add or take things from the perfect island but you can't from God as he is necessary
      • In "on behalf of the fool"
    • Aquinas
      • Everyones definition of God is different
      • We dont have an innate concept of God. Even if we did it is confused
      • How can someone who is contingent have the correct concept of one who is not
      • He is beyond human understanding
    • Hume
      • It is not possible to take an idea in someones mind, apply pure logic to it and come with a conclusion based entirely in the external, observable universe
      • existence is not a predicate
      • Responses
        • Some would say, as human beings we base our lives around that which we can observe rather than what we can rationally prove. However is this the case??
    • Kant
      • existence is not a predicate
        • a predicate must give us information about the subject. To say something exists does not give us any description
      • God can not be placed in a separate category than everything else
        • In doing this anselm and descartes have given a synthetic proposition an analytical status and broken the rules of grammer
          • In an analytical statement the subject definition is contained within the assertion, for example " a square has four sides"
            • To suggest that a square does not have four sides is illogical.
          • Propositions related to existence are synthetic because because you have to prove that the thing in question exists and so it is not evident in the statement

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An unfinished starting point for the ontological argument
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edmeadg · Jun 2015
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