The Ontological Argument - Anselm / Gaunilo / Descartes / Kant

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A few Philosophers relating to the Ontological Argument.
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The Ontological Argument - Anselm / Gaunilo / Descartes / Kant
  1. Why are GE Moore and Russell against the Ontological Argument?
    1. Kant and Russell
      1. You have to have proof that something exists before you add exist as a quality/predicate of them.
        1. Kant
          1. Kant thinks existence is not a predicate
            1. Predicate= Quality/Charactistic
            2. We have to know what something is to understand it.
              1. Existing does not help us understand something.
                1. To understand something it *has* to exist so we can know it.
                  1. A Characteristic has to tell you something about the 'thing', you can't have something without proof.
                    1. Against the Ontological Argument
                  2. Moore
                    1. A Some tame tigers do not growl
                      1. B Some tame tigers do not exist
                        1. A is meaningful saying that 'tame tigers' do not growl
                          1. a characteristic
                          2. B does not make any sense
                            1. How do you know what a 'tame tiger' is if it does not exist?
                              1. You do not learn anything about anything in this sentence/statement.
                                1. You do not learn anything about Tigers/God by saying if they do/do not exist.
                              2. Russell
                                1. Saying 'Cows are brown' is the same as saying 'Cows are brown and exist'.
                                  1. This is because you wouldn't know what it looked like if they didn't exist.
                                    1. Cows= Real things
                                    2. Therefore you do not prove anything about God by just saying 'he exists'.
                                      1. There is no proof
                                        1. You have to have proof before you say its true. You have to to have proof before you say Gods exists.
                                  2. Infavour of the Ontological Argument
                                    1. Based on Anselm's statement
                                      1. "God is greater than can be conceived"
                                      2. Gaunilo
                                        1. "If God exists he must be perfect"
                                          1. Perfect Island
                                            1. Image your perfect Island (in your mind)
                                              1. For it to be perfect it must exist
                                                1. Counter
                                                  1. Not true, because if you can image it, it doesn't mean it exists
                                            2. Necessary being- God is a necessary being and therefore must exist
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