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Deontologist approach to suicide
Opposite of Hume which was Consequentialist driven
Duties to self:
- Arguments against
- Duties seem to have corresponding rights
- Can we have a right against oneself which is a duty for oneself to enforce?
- Wrong conflation between terms moral and legal duties/rights
- Can divide ourselves into two halves: Self and higher, aspirational self (potential). Obliged to do better through conscience.
- Because there is an authority and inner-conflict, same person can have right and duty
- Can we have a right against oneself which is a duty for oneself to enforce?
- Assumed right-holder can release a duty-holder from his/her duty (make void contract)
- Could I not just relieve myself from my duties if I'm the right-holder?
- Can we relieve ourselves from moral duties? Are they releaseable?
- Could I not just relieve myself from my duties if I'm the right-holder?
- Duties to oneself are not real duties
- They are probably just mistaken for duties to others
- Is one's self respect not a matter of morality . Not a functioning moral agent if no self-respect
- Duties seem to have corresponding rights
- Arguments against
Velleman:
- Arguing against two key principles:
- Person has right to make life shorter in order to make it better (If doing so makes it better for him)
- Right to end life on grounds no longer worth living
- ATTACK AGAINST HUME'S ARGUMENT!
- There is a presumption in favour of deferring to person's judgement on subject of their own good
- Why might people agree with these principles?
- Appeal to experience
- Generally people are best judges of own good
- May argue that they are not of full mental capacity though
- Depression or dementia
- May argue that they are not of full mental capacity though
- Generally people are best judges of own good
- People are autonomous agents who have right to live how they wish
- Keeping autonomy is more important than agent making good decision
- Appeal to experience
- Person has right to make life shorter in order to make it better (If doing so makes it better for him)
- Argument:
- Premise 1
- Some values are independent of personal interest (PI).
- Not all values are personal in sense that they are dependent on benefits or harm to a particular person
- Some values are just there
- Not all values are personal in sense that they are dependent on benefits or harm to a particular person
- Argument for Premise 1
- PI's matter either in themselves (categorical and unconditional) or because of something else (hypothetical or conditional)
- PI's only have hypothetical or conditional value
- In order to have hypothetical or conditional values, there must be a categorical or unconditional value to avoid regress problem
- Something is of categorical value, namely persons (moral agents)
- PI's matter because and insofar as persons matter
- We value our interests as we value oursleves
- The categorical value within humans is dignity
- Kantian concept
- Kant says we have it in virtue of our 'rational nature'
- Rational nature is partly to do with making our means meet their ends
- Thought morality is the respect for the dignity of persons
- Kant says we have it in virtue of our 'rational nature'
- Interest independent value embodies in every person
- Autonomy requires us to respect others dignity (hence why Velleman endorses 2nd principle)
- Kantian concept
- PI's matter because and insofar as persons matter
- Leads to regress as always have to look for the condition or hypothesis of a condition or hypothesis etc.
- Something is of categorical value, namely persons (moral agents)
- Why they cannot have categorical value (matter within themselves)
- People who lack self-respect do not accord value to own interest as one has to value themselves first
- If one does't value people, they don't value that persons interests and won't take values into account if don't value that person
- In order to have hypothetical or conditional values, there must be a categorical or unconditional value to avoid regress problem
- PI's only have hypothetical or conditional value
- PI's matter either in themselves (categorical and unconditional) or because of something else (hypothetical or conditional)
- Some values are independent of personal interest (PI).
- Premise 2
- Suicide on grounds of the benefits one will obtain or harms they will avoid violates these interest independent values
- This is morally bad
- Suicide on grounds of the benefits one will obtain or harms they will avoid violates these interest independent values
- Premise 3
- Suicide is wrong solely on the grounds of the benefits obtained or harms avoided
- Could one not argue that there is no value that no-one benefits from?
- All values need beneficials otherwise they are not valued?
- But we value things that we don't benefit from like telling the truth is a value that can have bad consequences if told and not necessarily benefit us
- All values need beneficials otherwise they are not valued?
- Could one not argue that there is no value that no-one benefits from?
- Suicide is wrong solely on the grounds of the benefits obtained or harms avoided
- Premise 1
- Dignity
- Cannot be dependent on values so cannot ask me what I think of my own dignity
- Dignity is not a possession; everyone person has it but nobody owns it
- Is a value we must live up to
- Can have duties to ourselves as it is a duty to 'humanity in ourselves'
- Secular version of Sancity of life'
- Irreplaceable value
- Secular version of Sancity of life'
- Can have duties to ourselves as it is a duty to 'humanity in ourselves'
- If one show's disrespect for dignity, they undermine dignity for all humanity, not just themselves
- My benefits and gains may be only my concern but dignity is a concern for everyone
- Cannot be dependent on values so cannot ask me what I think of my own dignity
- Arguing against two key principles:
Deontology, dignity and suicide:
- Suicide is wrong as trades a categorical value of dignity in for interest
- Sacrificing for less
- Must respect dignity where ever it exists; cannot be maximised like consequentialism
- Kantian think about the dignity of persons, not the pain they are going through
- Pain matters only if it destroys the person where they are not a functioning moral agent because they become the pain
- Only interests become to remove pain
- Can commit suicide in this case but cannot commit it on basis of cost/benefit analysis... has to be because no longer a person
- Dementia can matter too as undermines dignity
- Only interests become to remove pain
- Pain matters only if it destroys the person where they are not a functioning moral agent because they become the pain
- Suicide is wrong as trades a categorical value of dignity in for interest
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