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The Ontological Argument
Anselm
- Used the statement in Psalms that said " a fool says in his heart there is no God"
- The Proslogion
- Reductio ad absurdum
- Proof by contradiction
- Both forms of the argument do this
- Proving your version is right by suggesting that the opposite would prove an absurd result
- Proof by contradiction
- God is the greatest conceivable being
- God is "aliquid quo nihil mauis possibit"
- Part 2
- Same format but with contingency and neccessity
- When he paints it it exists in his reality and his understanding
- It exists in his understanding
- The painter knows what he is going to paint before he paints it
- God is the greatest conceivable being
- It is better to have always existed then to stop existing
- If God stop existing a greater being could be conceived that always exists
- Therefore God must always exist
- Part 1
- Therefore God must exist.
- To think God doesn't would be a contradiction to the 1st premise
- If God existed only in the mind a greater being could be conceived that exists in both
- It is greater to exist in the mind and reality rather than just reality
- God is the greatest conceivable being
- Therefore God must exist.
- Reductio ad absurdum
Descartes
- Cogito ergo sum
- I think therefore I am
- Though he could prove he exists, he could not prove the existence of everything else
- He believed that the knowledge of the triangles properties did not come from his senses as his senses would not derive the triangles properties as clearly as his mind would
- Part 2
- God is a supremely perfect being
- Existence is a perfection
- If God did not exist he would not be supremely perfect as existence is a perfection
- Therefore God must exist
- A supremely perfect being has all the perfections
- When considering critisms
- To think of God without existence is to think of a mountain without valleys or a triangle without three sides
- Cogito ergo sum
Background
- A priori
- Not based on experience
- Tries to prove Gods existence through logic alone
- A priori
Critisms
- Guanillo
- Anselms first part.
- You cant define something into existence
- You can think of the perfect island but doesn't mean it exists.
- Everyone's idea of perfection is different (subjective)
- You can think of the perfect island but doesn't mean it exists.
- You can add or take things from the perfect island but you can't from God as he is necessary
- You cant define something into existence
- In "on behalf of the fool"
- Anselms first part.
- Aquinas
- Everyones definition of God is different
- We dont have an innate concept of God. Even if we did it is confused
- How can someone who is contingent have the correct concept of one who is not
- He is beyond human understanding
- Hume
- It is not possible to take an idea in someones mind, apply pure logic to it and come with a conclusion based entirely in the external, observable universe
- existence is not a predicate
- Responses
- Some would say, as human beings we base our lives around that which we can observe rather than what we can rationally prove. However is this the case??
- Kant
- existence is not a predicate
- a predicate must give us information about the subject. To say something exists does not give us any description
- God can not be placed in a separate category than everything else
- In doing this anselm and descartes have given a synthetic proposition an analytical status and broken the rules of grammer
- In an analytical statement the subject definition is contained within the assertion, for example " a square has four sides"
- To suggest that a square does not have four sides is illogical.
- Propositions related to existence are synthetic because because you have to prove that the thing in question exists and so it is not evident in the statement
- In an analytical statement the subject definition is contained within the assertion, for example " a square has four sides"
- In doing this anselm and descartes have given a synthetic proposition an analytical status and broken the rules of grammer
- existence is not a predicate
- Guanillo
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- An unfinished starting point for the ontological argument
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- edmeadg · Jun 2015
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- Oct 4, 2016
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