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Omnipotence- paradox of the stone
- OMNIPOTENCE
- ST ANSLEM-PROSLOGION
- god is that which no greater can be concieved
- early christian philosopher
- uses rational deduction
- maixmally great being
- limited to logic
- maixmally great being
- god is that which no greater can be concieved
- RENE DESCARTES-MEDITATIONS
- god is supremely perfect
- famous french philosopher
- not restricted by logic
- famous french philosopher
- famous french philosopher
- important in imoortance of gods existence/concept of existence
- using rational deduction
- god is an unlimited being
- god is an unlimited being
- both use rational deduction/a-posteriori reasoning
- god is an innate idea
- not learned
- we can clearly percieve
- gods atributes self evident= demonstratable using logical thinking
- gods atributes self evident= demonstratable using logical thinking
- not learned
- both-->maximal greatness/perfection= definite aspect
- both prove existence of god using ontological argument
- god is an innate idea
- god is supremely perfect
- ST ANSLEM-PROSLOGION
- PARADOX OF THE STONE
- THOMAS AQUINAS-SUMMA THEOLOGICA
- god can do all possible things (like anslem said)
- logically possible power
- reocognises cant make circle square
- god can do all possible things (like anslem said)
- DESCARTES-MEDITATIONS
- unlimited power
- god is supremely perfect
- because what we percieve true/possible in the world can be doubted
- we can only be sure of own+gods existence
- we can only be sure of own+gods existence
- unlimited power
- 1) either god can create a stone which god cant lift, or god cant create a stone which god cant lift
- 2) if god can create a stone twhich god cant lift, then, necessarily, there is at least one task which god cant perform= lift the stone
- 3) if god cant create a stone which god cant lift, then, necessarily, there is at least one task which god cant perform= create the stone
- 4) hence, there is at least one task which god cant perform
- 5) if god is an omnipotent being, then god can perform any task
- 6) god is not omnipotent
- 6) god is not omnipotent
- 5) if god is an omnipotent being, then god can perform any task
- 4) hence, there is at least one task which god cant perform
- GEORGE MAVRODES-SOME PUZZLES CONCERNING OMNIPOTENCE
- 2 solutions
- premise 1 faulty= assumes possibility of something logically impossible --> self-contradictory
- thiest (religious) dont have to prove the contradiction
- premise 3 faulty
- can say yes to p.2= god can create this stone--> can create a stone that god cant lift
- premise 3 faulty
- premise 1 faulty= assumes possibility of something logically impossible --> self-contradictory
- 2 solutions
- WADE SAVAGE-PARADOX OF THE STONE
- disagrees with maverodes 1st solution= paradox meant to self contradictory to show that omnipotent being dont exist
- maverodes wrong to assume omnipotent being can exist in order to argue that an omnipotent being does exist
- = "begging the question"
- = "begging the question"
- maverodes wrong to assume omnipotent being can exist in order to argue that an omnipotent being does exist
- disagrees with p.3
- double negative
- god cant create something he cant lift = god can create something he can lift
- no limitation on gods power
- no limitation on gods power
- god cant create something he cant lift = god can create something he can lift
- double negative
- disagrees with maverodes 1st solution= paradox meant to self contradictory to show that omnipotent being dont exist
- 3) if god cant create a stone which god cant lift, then, necessarily, there is at least one task which god cant perform= create the stone
- 2) if god can create a stone twhich god cant lift, then, necessarily, there is at least one task which god cant perform= lift the stone
- to show concept of omnipotent is incoherent
- THOMAS AQUINAS-SUMMA THEOLOGICA
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